Agree, their number 7 left back, number four and skipper were quality players and as a team did everything we didn't, including keeping the ball on the floor, always had the ball moving, pressed forward with pace and as you say were collectively very impressive, at times they literally ripped us apart and that hasn't for yonks. Vince played well, Mcghee looked sharp as did Felix when they came on. Hall for all his endeavour didn't look like player of last year, the same for Indy. Garner up front is still a no no to me, he certainly put a shift in didn't he, and many others out there could do a lot worse than to take notice of the effort he gave, including Southwell who am still reserving judgment on because whilst showing some nice touches were invariably for a CF in the wrong areas and my worry is that he has no pace. The shape was okay, the effort by most ditto, but for the first sixty minutes and for the second consecutive match, the biggest concerns were our lack of any pace and creativity. Not as optimistic as I was this time last year that's for sure